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Hey! Adrean here. Caught your post in audio advertisements. :)

The sound in the intro is interesting. Actually, everything is. It sounds very spaced out, like a chorus has been put on the entire track. I like that as an effect, but for the whole track is almost sounds like I'm listening from another room. I'm not sure if that's what you're going for.

I wouldn't classify this as any genre I know outside of a mix of dnb and maybe house of some kind. Don't take my word for it though. I never know what genre to put my music in.

I think if you were to make the bass mono up to about 210 hz, this would gel together a little more. And probably use a harder, grittier snare. I have tons of sample packs listed on my latest newspost (am also coming up with a sample pack, PM if you'd like to be on the waiting list)

The end of the track gets really distorted and full, in contrast to the beginning. I thought about turning it down some, and it doesn't feel like it develops much with the very light, dry sounding drums. Maybe look up how to accomplish a gated reverb or add a ping-pong delay for some hits, with some standard transition noises. Your writing is good. The production just needs that extra punch. And to be sure, nothing was overtly offensive sounding at all. Just needs some polish on the mix/master.

Don't worry. If this is your first couple years of serious pieces, and you haven't fallen down the tutorial rabbit hole, you're making good progress. Keep at it, and keep laying down ideas. You may find you want to revisit them later.

Enjoyed the listen!

Rooldook responds:

Thank you for your feedback, I really like and appreciate it. <3

The mix in the beginning is a bit low mid heavy. I suspect it's the low pass combined with lots of reverb. You can actually cut a lot of that away to 150-250 hz without losing a lot of the breathy character. If you have a lot of low mid going on in your melodies as you do here in the intro, I actually really recommend it

I enjoyed the tempo increase you did into 1:20. I would probably bring the entire chorus/drop to bear right there with your bass line, if applicable. It feels like a lot of builds up to this point and I'm ready for a drop!

Also, that cymbal is trash, no offense. It's dry. Try getting a sample pack online or something. There's lots of freebies to be had -- check my page if you're really stumped where to look. I have a news post of lots of free instruments I think you would enjoy.

The cymbal is really loud at points. You might think cymbals are loud, but listen to your favorite compositions. They're actually quite far down in the mix. I might also put a ping pong delay on it if you plan to use it as is. In this genre all your hihats, cymbals, snares, etc, should have a spacy feel to not stick out. Reverse cymbals leading up to the crash and sweeping transitions are great for making smooth transitions

I'm noticing there really isn't a bassline. Not that I can hear

The detuned piano actually sounds quite nice. Didn't expect that!

Anyway, nice track. I actually really enjoyed the listen and think you did a great job writing your leads. I myself have trouble with that. Great work. Keep doing what you're doing, and you'll go far :)

Sounds good, creative arrangement of what ordinarily is a stale theme for remixing. The mixing here isn't bad. I would recommend taking it to a free internet master to fix the quiet volume.

And if this isn't a remix, forgive me. I can't even remember the name of the classical piece I'm thinking of, same key haha.

JonnyDesutoroiya responds:

In fact I am already doing the mastered versions all the projects, they will have changes and improvements in sound and Plugins such as volume increase since most of them are below -20 to -30 dB.

Wow this was not what I was expecting hearing your work with @Ultramartyr. You have a really nice voice. I'd like to hear this in a heavier style, honestly, but it sounds quite good. Might add a small delay to your vocals, take the drums down .3 dB or so, and bring the vocals up by .2

Great work

Miss you, man. I've always loved the rough, gritty quality of your tunes. This is a little quiet -- could probably be fixed with just a free online master at this output volume if you don't want to spend a lot of time doing that yourself. It sounds like the high 18-22k is overrepresented in the cymbals, and the drums themselves could use some compression. I would also take the bass up by anywhere between .5 to 1.5 dB. It's sort of hiding with a low end fuzz. I can only hear a bit of sub.

But not complaining. The writing of this piece was pretty splendid

Wow this is wild. I never imagined somebody spitting on this track! It was intended as a score :o

Now that I think about it, the structure makes sense. I think this is a vibe!

Onto the mixing, it's getting better and better with time, whether you know it or not. I might cop something like KSHMR Essentials (Kick, the free version) and see if I can use the width function on those adlibs.

Regardless, if you can get just a little more clarity in that upper mid, your flow believe it or not will almost totally outshine most mixing issues. I still would probably drop or chop a little tighter some of the adlibs. Occasionally they run over each other and get a little muddy.

But overall, this slaps. Glad my junk inspired you to make such impressive flows. Great work!

Cyberdevil responds:

Glad you liked it! I do love spitting particularly on tracks not intended for spitting on. XD

Hmm definitely was an elaborate attempt with this one but I feel like it might've actually been a step back since the first, turned out a bit messy somehow, vocal tone a little blander, which is why I tried messing around with a bit too many layers I think. But maybe that's not really the mixing, just the recording this time. Anyway that'd be awesome if you want to! I'm thinking when Inktober's over and all has calmed down I could give this another run too, but anytime you want to mess around with and potentially greatly improve a mix I'm happy to send over files. :)

Yeaah more clarity seems key. I do agree. Gotta work on that.

Thanks for the feedback again ADR3-N! And your tracks really are dope you know! Addictive just like coke and blow! Though more so empowering and soulful so.

You know, as much as you say you aren't happy with the vocal quality, despite some muddyness on adlibs, the overall quality is improving by leaps and bounds with each year that goes by. Your flows are becoming more and more refined. I think if you were just a bit more selective with your chopping vocals, pare down the track number just a bit, or perhaps have one lead center vocal that's nice and clean, and apply a chorus, eventually you'll get results. Keep experimenting.

The mid is just a bit heavy on the vocal, making it sound just a little nasal, but it's not overly sibilant from what I can hear on laptop speakers. Try some EQ play and compression -- by the way, check my latest post, some vocal processing freebies are on there.

Glad to see you still at it as always. Keep it up!

Cyberdevil responds:

Hey thank you ADR3-N, good to get an outside perspective on things; hear that I am actually getting somewhere. Yeah I gotta master the chopping, though it felt like the muddiness worked pretty well with the beat in this particular case sometimes, especially towards the end. More so feel I didn't manage the right tone and all, voice strains too quick, but that should get better.

Hmm I totally forgot the EQ advice I picked up last year!!! Thanks for that reminder! I'll check out that post too.

Always. :) Thank ya very much for stopping by for the premiere; dropping all this very useful feedback no less!

This song is a meme. The mixing works for it. The only thing I would suggest for this format is hold some kind of cloth in front of the phone mic to soften those Fs and Ps

A nice fresh take on one of my favorite songs. It has the feeling of a live lounge recording (while also reminding me of the original menu theme for Dragon's Dogma) -- I think some of that is to do with loads of low end reverb and sub. That chorus is very nicely done, positively angelic, and the composition really shines through here. I would want just a little more compression and some de-essing, but it comes through quite nicely.

I may bring the bass down by about .2 dB, the guitars up by a similar amount, and perhaps the marimbas down ever so slightly.

I understand there are two mics on the drums and that's rough to work with. There has to be some way to bring out the profile of the snare just a bit, or go back in and either record or trigger a VST snare. It's only a very slight distractor. Overall the playing is wonderful and outshines the recording.

I very much love to see how you, Troisnyx are progressing through the years, and the collaboration here is spectacular. Everyone is playing to their strengths. The lead guitar soars without completely owning the track. All other parts of the arrangement are in their proper place, and it flows masterfully.

Great work, everyone! Thanks to @BBank for pointing me here!

BBaNK responds:

You are welcome! Glad you enjoyed it!

LD-W responds:

Some of the Multiband Comp on the master chain was loosened up on this to ensure that it meets the 9DR requirement for a 'universal master' to upload to multiple platforms at once (along with having it hover around -12LUFS and -1.0dbTP). Some of the brightness can be explained due to running bx_console_n on every single channel all channels having different TMT values), with it's THD turned right up to colour the signal appropriately, DeEssing was definitely required and applied on the drums, vocals and guitars etc.

We were on somewhat of a time limit with this piece, otherwise I would of been happy to drop in a Ludwig Supraphonic 400/402 as a snare replacement (since it was only 2 mic positions to work with, DrumXchanger was out of the window in terms of choice, I would of had to do the entire thing manually!). How the drums sound was the best I could do after a significant amount of processing, alot of it focused around reconstructing the kick and also trying my best with some spacial options to bring out the snare as much as was possible considering the circumstances.

Really pretty arp in the beginning! The chords themselves are very pretty, and I like the old 90's synths. The only issue I have with this track is although everything is very nicely written and progressed, it's very hard to hear your bass synth. You could possibly apply some subtle distortion and open up in the high mids. Everything else is sort of crushing it down, especially the percussion, which is definitely nice that it isn't buried, but the track itself feels topheavy in terms of frequencies represented.

Still, I really like it. Great job!

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